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Poster: guyzilla Date: Nov 29, 2009 8:32pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Copyright Question

I found an old flick in Open Source and downloaded it. When I watched it, I noticed it had a copyright notice by Retromedia saying "Special Edition Copyright blablabla Retromedia..." but saw nothing "special" about this "edition". I'll post the link so you can see what I mean.
http://www.archive.org/details/JerryWarrensTerrorOfTheBloodhunters1962
Can a distributor superimpose a copyright notice on a film just because they're the ones putting it out or is there more to this story than what I see?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Nov 30, 2009 12:38am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

It appears as though they added to the soundtrack which is the basis of their copyright claim. This could mean that they added new music, sound effects, dialogue anything that could be included in the soundtrack. Because they have altered the film by adding additional content they can claim copyright on their edition as a derivative work.

Terror of the blood hunters.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0001287304 / 2005-08-01
Title: Terror of the blood hunters.
Description: Videodisc (DVD)
Copyright Claimant: Retromedia Entertainment, Inc.
Date of Creation: 2005
Date of Publication: 2005-03-21
Previous Registration: Motion picture of the same title preexisting.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: soundtrack.
Copyright Note: Cataloged from appl. only.
Names: Retromedia Entertainment, Inc.

The movie itself in its original form isn't copyright because the copyright wasn't renewed in 1990. Its one of the many pictures from the Medalian Films catalogue that wasn't renewed after the rights were sold.

The only other derivative work lodged with USCO is Alpha Video's cover design for their DVD of this movie.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Nov 30, 2009 2:12am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

So the there was at least some actual alteration work done and not just putting their name on it. Ok. That clears up the mystery for me. Thank you, Video Cellar.

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Poster: Blade_Runner Date: Nov 30, 2009 2:02pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

I also have a copyright question.....

If a public domain film is in its unaltered form EXCEPT for the fact that it displays the DVD company logo in the corner from time to time is it Copyrighted?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Nov 30, 2009 4:31pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

The mechanical inclusion of a watermark is not grounds for a new claim of copyright, but the logo itself could have a trademark applied. Using the underlying public domain work and removing the watermark (blacking it out, blurring it, reframing to conceal it) would not be an infringement of that trademark or copyright logo.

The companies that do this rarely do anything to significantly alter the works they use, beyond copying it off someone elses video or dvd. If they ever do register copyright it is on a "compilation of films" or "repackaging of films."

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-12-01 00:31:25

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Poster: migre Date: Dec 4, 2009 12:41pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

You must really enjoy denying the public. What's it like to be a natural-born a$$hole? Is your daddy one too?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Dec 4, 2009 9:56pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

How exactly is providing instructions on a legal way to circumvent an attempt to gain copyright on a public domain work "denying the public"?

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Dec 4, 2009 8:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

From your comment, it's no surprise that you can't comprehend what you've read.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:21pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

It is a surprise, however, that migre has the knowledge to use a computer well enough to post remarks like that. I think I saw a sci-fi movie about a guy like this once. I think it was called "T'RD, THE THING FROM URANUS".

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Poster: Freebmovies Date: Dec 30, 2009 9:45am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

hahahah

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Poster: quigs Date: Dec 4, 2009 5:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyright Question

He is just doing his best to inform interested uploaders and downlorders the ways and means of copyright law (which
people like yourself) just do not fanthom. This site has been maintained since 2005 and his expertise has helped numerous people over the course these years. In order to maintain this site, rules of downloading should be observed and w/o these rules or guidance, this site would be gone. I praise your caring VideoCellar! Keep up the good work. Thank you for being here!